"Hyvä perse" eli saako treenattua kroppaa kehua?

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Olin hiljattain juhlissa, joissa henkilö X esitteli minut henkilö Y:lle. "Ai sä olet se Lotta, jolla on kuulemma hyvä perse", sanoi Y. 

Kuittasin heiton naureskelemalla, että totta puhutte, onhan minulla aika hyvä takamus, kiitosta vaan. Seuraavaksi puhe siirtyi reisiini ("Eihän sua haittaa että me ihaillaan sun reisiä?"), ja jossain työnkuvista kertomisen välissä sain X:ltä komenttia myös epäkkäistäni ("Sulla on tosi isot noi... noi lihakset tossa.") Keskustelukumppanini eivät olleet mitään pojankoltiaisia vaan reilu kolmekymppisiä johtajatason miehiä, jotka olivat ehkä ottaneet pari mutta käyttäytyivät muuten ihan asiallisesti. Olen melkoisen paksunahkainen ja tyyliltäni muutenkin "yksi pojista", enkä ollut kommenteista moksiskaan. Ehkä vähän mauttomia, juu, mutta sellaista läpänheitto tutun X:n kanssa välillä on.

Jälkikäteen jäin miettimään, että olisiko pitänyt suhtautua ruumiini kommentointiin muutenkin kuin nauramalla ja lyömällä vettä myllyyn. Olisiko pitänyt huomauttaa, että naisen (tai miehen) kropan - oli se sitten treenin ansiota tai ei - arviointi, vaikka positiivinenkin, ei välttämättä ole kauhean tyylikästä? Tai olisiko minun pitänyt pahastua, tai tuntea huonoa mieltä siitä että en pahastunut ollenkaan? Siitä se ajatus sitten virisi:

Onko eri asia kommentoida treenattua takamusta kuin rintoja, joihin ei voi samalla tavalla vaikuttaa? 

Kyllä ja ei. 

Pääosa treenimotivaatiostani koostuu muusta kuin ulkonäkösyistä, mutta toki on kiva jos kroppaan tulee muskelia ja muotoa. Ei minua haittaa, että jonkun mielestä reiteni ovat hienon muotoiset. Suhtautuisin kuitenkin ihan eri tavalla siihen, jos kommentointi koskisi rintavarustustani (en kyllä ole ikinä saanut yhtään tissiheittoa, johtuneeko siitä että ei oikein ole etumuksessa mitä kommentoida... :D). Se tuntuisi loukkaavalta, seksistiseltä ja turhauttavalta. Rynnäsgeenilotossa ei tullut voittoa, mutta takaloosteriinsa ja reisiinsä sitä sentään voi vaikuttaa. 

En kyllä tiedä onko erilaisessa suhtautumisessakaan mitään järkeä. Onko sillä eroa, kommentoiko joku epäkästä vai hanuria? Onko kehuminen jotenkin sallitumpaa, jos toinen on tehnyt kyseisen ruuminosan eteen duunia? Sallitaanko kommentti silloin, jos tietää toisen treenaavan ja olettaa tämän olevan itsekin tyytyväinen kroppansa muotoon? Onko treenattujen reisien kommentoiminen ookoo, jos se ei ole seksuaalisesti latautunut kommentti samalla tavalla kuin tissien kehuminen oletettavasti olisi?

Mitään selkeää mielipidettä en osaa asiaan muodostaa, sen verran monisyinen juttu tämä on. Mutta entä te? Sallitteko kroppanne kommentoinnin, miltä osin ja miksi? Vai miksi ei? 

Ps. Kuvan takapuoli liittyy tapaukseen. Oli muuten äärimmäisen vaikea ottaa kuvaa omasta takamuksestaan! Ylläni on Roguen superhieno paita. Piti joskus postata uusista treenivaatehankinnoista mutta on jäänyt. Nytpä tiedätte.

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FFFifi
Fitness Führer

Tää on aika samanlainen kysymys kuin se, että saako laihtumisesta sanoa (tai jopa kehaista). Mä vetäisin sellaisen linjan, että jos kommentin sanoja sanoo sen ystävällismielisesti ilahduttamistarkoituksessa, ja niin että suhtautuu kommentoitavaan ihan oikeana ihmisenä eikä ruumiinosina, niin saa. Muussa tapauksessa on parempi olla hiljaa.

Mulle kehutaan pääasiassa jalkojen lihaksia ja halutaan koskea niihin, ja hyväksyn tämän (tutuilta) :P Mutta ihan tarkalleen ottaen nekään eivät ole pelkästään omaa työtä, sillä vaikuttavathan genettiset ominaisuudet myös siihen, miten mikäkin ruuminosa ottaa treeniä vastaan.

Lotta Katariina
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Ihmisyys-mittatikku on tuossa kyllä käytännöllinen. Mä tiedän että tutumpi noista tyypeistä kyllä arvostaa mua ihan ihmisenä ja ammattilaisena, niin kyllä mä annan sen välillä jotain kommenttia heittää. 

Miia_pau
Kolmas linja

Itse olen kelannut, että näiden ylitsevuotavien kroppakompleksien aikakaudella ehkä ylipäänsä olis vaan parempi, jos kukaan ei kommentoisi, tai varsinkaan ääneen arvottaisi, kenenkään kroppaa millään tavalla. Treenattua eli ei. Tai no ehkä joo parisuhteessa tai jossain muussa läheisissä tekemisissä voi kommentoida (tai jos menee jonnekin vartalonesittelykisoihin), mutta en kyllä lähtis kertomaan jollekin puolitutulle tai tuntemattomalle mielipidettäni niiden vartalonosista. Miks niitä edes kiinnostaisi mun mielipide? (ei ainakaan pitäis kiinnostaa). Ja kääntäen, kiinnostaako itseä kuulla jonkun randomin tyypin mielipidettä meikän tisseistä/perseestä/reisistä/epäkkäistä. Eipä juuri :D

tiiti
ite puin

Ihmisenä, joka itse päästää välillä tahattomasti ihan kauheitakin sammakoita suustaan, mä olen ajatellut että jos en välittömästi keksi syytä, miksi kyseinen tyyppi yrittäisi olla mulle jotenkin veemäinen/objektisoivat/paskapää, oletan, että hän ei yritä.

Enkä edes usko, että maailma parantuisi mun loukkaantumisesta (tai siitä, että alkaisin kelaamaan jonkun tutun tai vieraan kommenttia enemmän) juurikaan, oli sille sitten aihetta tai ei :D

A. Sinivaara
Onnenpäivä

En mä kyllä osaa loukkaantua siitä jos joku kehaisee mun ulkonäköä, koski se kehu sitten naamaa tai jotain kohtaa mitä on treenattu (naamaa on muuten vaikea treenata eri näköiseksi :D). Mutta kyllä mä joskus vaivaannun kun ihmiset ylistää liikaa. Kuten eilen salilla, kolme ihmistä seisoo mun vieressä ja hehkuttaa kuinka hyvässä lihassa olen ja yksi vanhempi mies lähtee kiertämään salia nykimässä kaikkia hihasta, että kattokaa nyt tota. Mua ihan oikeasti nolotti ja teki mieli vaipua maan alle, minä kun en erityisesti kaipaa huomiota salilla ollessani.... amerikkalaiset, huoh.

Mutta arvostelu, se onkin sitten eri juttu. Arvostella voi toki harmittomastikin, mutta sellainen "eikö tuo nyt jo riittäisi", "olet liian iso", "näytät mieheltä" -kommentointi on aika tökeröä. Sitäkin kuulee aina välillä, mutta tuntemattoman ihmisen suusta se ei juuri hetkauta. Mutta kun joku läheinen, sukulainen tai ystävä sanoo niin, niin se sattuu.

Mut on muuten kerran naisten saunaillassa esitelty lauteilla Annena, jolla on silikonirinnat. Hulvatonta. Siinä oli komia fiilis istua alasti ku kaikki tuijotti mun tissejä.

 

Hem Buggah

Mun mielestä mistä tahansa saa ja pitää kehua, jos sen tekee kivasti ja vilpittömin mielin. En pahastu omaan kroppaani kohdistuvasta huomiosta (vaikka ei se nyt edes niin treenattu ole... :P), jos kommentit annetaan asiallisesti eikä tilanteeseen liity kourimista tai taka-ajatuksia. Tuo FFFifin mainitsema ihmisyys-aspekti on ratkaiseva; että ketään ei nähdä vain tissiparina tai lihakimpaleena, vaan HENKILÖNÄ.

rosiez (Ei varmistettu) http://roosarosiez.blogspot.fi/

Saa kehua, mutta ei liikaa ja liian ylistävästi. Liian ylistävä kehuminen menee jo ehkä liikaa ironian puolelle... Itselläni on isot reidet (ainakin omasta mielestäni) ja niitä kehutaan aina. Jotenkin olin 50/50 pidänkö kehuista vai otanko 'kehut' piilovittuiluna kun kehuja on yleensä minua pienempi :D

Lotta Katariina
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Totta, välillä sitä saa miettiä että "onpas sulla muhkeat reidet" kehu vai kauhistelu :D

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